Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/14/2001 08:04 AM House EDU

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HB 54 - STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  announced the next  order of business as  HOUSE BILL                                                               
NO. 54, "An  Act relating to reimbursement of  student loans; and                                                               
providing  for an  effective date."    [The committee  previously                                                               
adopted  the   proposed  CSHB  54,  version   22-LS0174\C,  Ford,                                                               
1/30/01, as the work draft.]                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0779                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES, sponsor of HB  54, came forward to explain                                                               
the changes  in the bill.   In response to Chair  Bunde's concern                                                               
on  the  fiscal  note,  he understands  that  any  fiscal  impact                                                               
essentially would come  out of the general fund or  be subject to                                                               
appropriation by  the legislature.   He said he assumes  that the                                                               
cost of this  would be paid out of the  dividend [from the Alaska                                                               
Student Loan Corporation].  He  presented an amendment that would                                                               
add another  line in existing  subsection (t) that would  make it                                                               
clear  that  the  new  interest reduction  would  be  subject  to                                                               
appropriation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0857                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN made  a motion  to adopt  Amendment 1,  22-                                                               
LS0174\C.1, Ford, 2/13/01, which read:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page  1, following line 11:                                                                                                
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Sec. 2.  AS 14.43.120(t) is amended to read:                                                                       
                    (t) Payment of interest under (l) of                                                                        
          this section, [AND] forgiveness under (s) of this                                                                 
          section, and a reduction of interest under (w) of                                                                 
          this section are subject to appropriation by the                                                                  
          legislature.  Money obtained from the sale of                                                                         
          bonds by the Student Loan Corporation under AS                                                                        
          14.42.220 may not be appropriated for the payment                                                                     
          of interest or the forgiveness of loans."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  asked Representative Davies  to contrast HB  54 with                                                               
the other loan forgiveness bills.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES explained  that HB 54 is  trying to address                                                               
situations where students take a  student loan and travel outside                                                               
of the state  and to encourage them  to return to the  state.  He                                                               
expressed that he  thinks people are concerned  about the effects                                                               
on their families  when children attend school  and then relocate                                                               
outside  of the  state.   The contrast  is that  the other  bills                                                               
being  considered  apply  just to  people  engaged  in  teaching.                                                               
House Bill 54 would have a  much smaller fiscal note but affect a                                                               
broader  class  of citizens  that  come  back and  actually  gain                                                               
employment in the state.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES  stated that his  intent under HB 54  is to                                                               
encourage  people to  think  about relocating  to  Alaska.   Even                                                               
though HB  54 applies to  both those who  stay and who  leave, he                                                               
said  his real  focus is  to get  people who  are taking  classes                                                               
outside the state  to return.  One option to  consider is whether                                                               
to  restrict  the  student  loan program  to  people  who  attend                                                               
schools in the  state of Alaska.  One reason  he thinks that idea                                                               
might be rejected  is that young people  benefit from experiences                                                               
outside the state.   He said students should try  to capture that                                                               
experience and bring it back to  Alaska.  A second reason is that                                                               
the  university  system  has  a  limited  class  offering.    The                                                               
university has  about half the  offerings of the  average Western                                                               
U.S. institution.  The vast  majority of students, when asked why                                                               
they either  leave the University of  Alaska to go Outside  or go                                                               
straight from  high school to  an institution outside  the state,                                                               
say it is  because the university doesn't offer  the courses that                                                               
they want.   That needs  to be  recognized in the  public policy.                                                               
He said he thinks that is done  in the student loan arena, but HB
54  would try  to  then  fix an  unintended  consequence of  that                                                               
policy  in a  limited way  and  encourage people  to think  about                                                               
coming back.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1074                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DIANE   BARRANS,  Executive   Director,   Alaska  Commission   on                                                               
Postsecondary  Education  (ACPE),  Department  of  Education  and                                                               
Early Development  (EED), came  forward on  behalf of  the Alaska                                                               
Student Loan  Corporation (ASLC).   She  thanked the  sponsor for                                                               
eliminating  any ambiguity  over the  funding source  for HB  54.                                                               
She  stated  that whether  it's  a  reappropriation of  the  ASLC                                                               
return to  the state  or straight  general funds,  this clarifies                                                               
and removes the concerns.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE asked  if Ms. Barrans had a view  as to the potential                                                               
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  answered yes.  Using  the old forgiveness rate  as a                                                               
basis, the ASLC has created a range  of what the cost in year one                                                               
would be with  a half percent reduction up to  the full 1 percent                                                               
reduction.   In year  one, that would  range between  $90,000 and                                                               
$177,000.   In year  15 of  that repayment  schedule it  would be                                                               
between $1.4 [million]  on the low end and $2.9  [million] on the                                                               
high end.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE asked  whether, if this were entered  into a contract                                                               
for  forgiveness,  it  would reduce  the  IRS  (Internal  Revenue                                                               
Service) potential.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BARRANS replied  it  would.   Because  there  is a  required                                                               
service associated with this benefit,  she understands - with the                                                               
disclaimer that she is not an  attorney, much less a tax attorney                                                               
- it could be excludable.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1188                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER  made a  motion to  move proposed  CSHB 54,                                                               
version  22-LS0174\C,   Ford,  1/30/01,  as  amended,   from  the                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations  and attached  fiscal                                                               
notes.   There being  no objection, CSHB  54(EDU) moved  from the                                                               
House Special Committee on Education.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                

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